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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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hello and welcome to the skeptics are an

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episode number 273 for the 13th of

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january 2014 Richard Saunders here with

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you from Sydney Australia yes I'm back

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from a wonderful trip to California

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always have a great time in California

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but it's nice to be home yeah ok it's a

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bit hot and sticky in Sydney bit sweaty

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but there you go coming up on this

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week's episode of the skeptic zone I

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catch up to a good old friend of mine

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dr. Simon Singh what a clever man my

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friends what a clever man he has written

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a new book he's written a new book oh

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hello it's Fred the cat hello Fred yep

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he has written a new book called The

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Simpsons and their mathematical secrets

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in fact Simon Singh gave a talk here in

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Sydney just the other night about his

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new book fascinating all the maths

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hidden sort of hidden in the Simpsons

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advanced mathematical problems and

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equations and all sorts of things really

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interesting stuff so I catch up with

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Simon and he also discusses the recent

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changes to the libel laws in England

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following that it's a weakened science

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back again from the Royal Institution of

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Australia with their predictions there

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are scientific predictions or their

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predictions in the world of science for

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2014 and following that Maynard's spooky

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action with his predictions or should I

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say the people who go to skeptics in the

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pub their predictions for the coming

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year 2014 what the skeptics think will

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happen this year now just a couple of

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quick notes here it's been brought to my

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attention there's a book out called

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America's imaginary hostage crisis by

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Andrew Enders be this is available on

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amazon and i will put a link in the show

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notes to this episode at www skeptics on

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TV now in 1979 a group of iranian

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students invaded and occupied the US

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Embassy in Tehran 6,000 miles away a

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newly trained the team of military mmm

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psychics was given the task of remotely

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viewing the embassy ground

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but how accurate were they for the first

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time ever these declassified reports are

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looked at in detail and compared to the

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real events all that does sound

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interesting America's imaginary hostage

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crisis worth a look also I'm delighted

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to say that radio citywide LPFM org

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neighbor radio 99.1 FM in Madison

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Wisconsin will now be replaying

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interviews from the skeptic zone great

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to know if you're in that area tune in

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99.1 FM well I know you're keen to hear

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Simon Singh but for now I'm going to run

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to the fridge run downstairs run to the

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fridge get myself a nice tall glass of

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ice-cold water while you enjoy the

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I'm sitting here in a sort of a

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backstreet of darling harbour in Sydney

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that other fellow some rainbow lorikeets

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in the tree above us there are some

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people walking by I'm with dr. Simon

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Singh who's visiting Australia hello

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Simon yeah we should says a very

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picturesque car park right behind this

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is a volume asst car park with hardly

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any cars but I think people can hear the

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street noises you you've found yourself

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in a rather nice part of Sydney I must

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say down here in darling harbour yeah

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well it i'm here with my wife and my

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child and we're here partly for a family

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wedding in melbourne so began heading to

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camper van so we had a bit of a holiday

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as well really and also chance to talk

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to some skeptics while i'm here and i've

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written a new book so i'm giving some

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talked about the book as well so it's a

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bit of work a bit of fun at a bit of

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that's excellent well let's talk about

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the book because you were very

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graciously gave a talk here in sydney

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skeptics in the pub all about your new

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book and the feedback we've been getting

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from the talk and the books are flying

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off the shelves so to speak at your talk

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which was very gratifying it's been very

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positive people loved your talk what's

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the book all about and and how can

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people get oh yeah but yeah yeah I guess

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he says I'd flown in that day and so

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asleep in my talks but that day was it

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last book I've written was all about

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alternative medicine and that was very

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much about criticizing bad science or

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bad medicine this is a book very much

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impressive or in celebration of

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something good something positive which

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is the fact that a lot of the writers of

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The Simpsons and a lot of the writers of

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futurama because a very very similar

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team of writers those writers have very

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strong mathematical backgrounds and I

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research papers one chap Jeff Westbrook

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comedy writer and all of these writers

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and special mathematical numbers into

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the simpsons and futurama over over the

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last few decades or 25 years in the case

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of the simpsons and and people have

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into the name of a book on a bookshelf

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bart walk by and and so the book is

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about really pulling out all those bits

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of maths explaining what the math is

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of the show and what the shows all about

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these people who started off as

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mathematicians and who are now not just

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most successful TV show in history yes

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show and you do min on a corner of the

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whole frame and there's a number yeah

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which had a very special meaning or a

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series of numbers yeah I mean so for

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Homer turn a couple play where a

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character called Tabitha vicks whose

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marriage with baseball player but

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Mitchell Tabitha and Parker having

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marital problems and the whole episode

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stories are bagged and at the end of the

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question on it which says what is the

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crowd in today's baseball game and there

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very significant and but they're not

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I think one number is 81 to 88 12 a I

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number itself like six one two and three

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narcissistic number because the digits

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number the number reforms itself from

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infinity of numbers so roof those are

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the kind of things that are going on in

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the show what did you have to do to to

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discover all these little gems well I

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mean did you literally spend hours upon

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hours watching the simpsons and we

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jarama yeah I thinking about it's a book

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this about 10 years ago and and I wanted

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to write a book about it 10 years ago

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and then I got distracted by alternative

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medicine you know I got sued for libel

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they took up a few years and we've been

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campaigning for libel reform that took

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pause button yeah and just just just

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watching through them over and over I

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listened a lot of the shows i listened

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to them with the DVD commentary switched

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mentioned oh by the way this is why this

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numbers there right well if you look in

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the corner you'll see sir miles last

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theorem or something yeah partly I spoke

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to other people for example there are

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two professors in America who've written

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lecture courses for undergraduates using

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a few examples from The Simpsons so they

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were so generous with their time so

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willing to I mean the book is called The

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Simpsons and their mathematical seek

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right but but in truth it was never a

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secret the writers hit the maths but

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in the way of the plot sort of hidden in

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plain sight hidden in plain sight

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exactly and so it was never supposed to

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be a secret and they're very happy that

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now more people know about this this

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mathematics because in a way what

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they're doing is that they're reaching

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out to their fellow geeks you know if

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you're a teenage kid and you love maths

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you begin to think what hang on the

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right and the simpsons love maths as

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much as i do and and maybe that makes

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people feel better about their own love

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of mathematics oh yeah no no secret but

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really known about before and I like the

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fact that the Booker's Simpsons yellow

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supportive they gave us okay some stills

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with the fact that you're using their

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materials well there's others named the

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sims well yeah i think if you're kritis

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criticizing not quite the right word but

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if you're commenting on it on a work of

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art which i think the simpsons is ya

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flexibility if you're great basically

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creating your own content and you're

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commenting on it okay and you're

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celebration of the show and it's written

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i think you know really with the

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collaboration of the writers and and as

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if Fox gave us four images to use from

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the show in the book which is great

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because they're very very careful about

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how their images are used and the

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writers have just you know even after

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the book was published they've been

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giving interviews I gave a lecture at

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the Museum of mathematics in New York

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with my crease all about his involvement

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in the show and and so on so yeah it's

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been really good working with the

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writers and and yeah it's a cell and say

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not just the symptoms but also a

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futurama right when i when i got to the

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states they were actually editing the

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next series and the final series a few

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drama so I got to see some of the shows

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before they were all cast and those 2d

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blacktop is an episode that people may

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have seen but in this episode that

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there's a drag racing scene on a mobius

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strip drag strip when a mobius strip is

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an old mathematical geometrical loop

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with a twist in it boosted it which

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means it is a shape that only has one

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side yeah and because of that in the end

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Leela professor farnsworth have a

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head-on collision and they get squashed

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into two dimensions I've seen that

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episode little earlier so that the whole

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animation changes and that is an homage

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to a novella written by Edwin a Abbott

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called flatland which is all about

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creatures living in a two-dimensional

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world so you have a TV show now paying

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or Marge to a mathematical novella and

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then eventually when they figure out how

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to get back to three dimensions you know

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for good good to go from two dimensions

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to three dimensions you don't just snap

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between two and three you could pass

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between the fractional dimensions now

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you might think we're hang or how can

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have some how can something have a

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fractional dimension well fractals turn

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out to have a fractional dimension and

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and so as they pass as the characters

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move from two dimensions to three

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dimensions they pass through fractal

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landscapes so again all of this is is

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kind of just background yeah yeah but if

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you know about these things it just

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makes a show even even richer and

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something fell over there I don't know

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what it was but if you don't know about

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that stuff it's still a funny show yes

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yes actually enjoy the adventure that's

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that that's the skill of these writings

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that it's working on so many different

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levels that yeah yeah

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yeah I remember when I came back from

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when the Simpson started I was working

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in CERN at the time I missed I think the

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first two seasons I came back in my 9

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year old nephew was watching this old

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show with yellow characters and so on

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and it I didn't really get and I assumed

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it was a show for 9 year olds and it's

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got lots of slapstick lots of fun and

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games and then you begin to watch it as

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an adult and pretty soon you realize

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that this is a show that works for

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everybody yes oh absolutely well he's

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been many shows like that over the years

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of gas as with you know how can people

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get their hands on their own copy okay i

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guess i guess i get it's available in

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all good bookshops i think they're going

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the motorbikes running just dashed off

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to get a copy right now but yeah I guess

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it's available online I guess so yeah

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I've just I've just arrived here and so

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I'm going to be doing some more

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interviews with various radio stations

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and a bit of TV so so yeah but I google

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yeah being google it I mean the response

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has been fantastic in Germany it's a

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it's a runaway bestseller you know I

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gave a talk in Berlin and I was thrilled

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to bits because in the audience was the

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German actor a german actress actor he

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plays Lisa no does the voiceover for

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Lisa and I was chatting to her

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afterwards and she had no idea of all

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the mathematica show really so so that's

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been great to take you off in Germany

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the response in Britain's been great and

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not in America I was touring and so it's

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it's just you know you've spent years

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working on a book and what you want this

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for people to go out there and enjoy it

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so well so far it's been great I think

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the reaction from the crowd the other

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night in the pub was interesting i was

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up the front and those well i was moving

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around a bit but what I really loved was

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you would show something and there would

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be gasps yeah people would really truly

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go oh like they've seen the most amazing

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because they probably know the episode

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of their never real

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the thing yet I think I think people

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sometimes think well if this is a book

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about the simpsons the maths in it must

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be fairly trivial and the maths is

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nothing but it nothing it's a deal

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nothing open it there are discussions of

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infinity but not only discussions the

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infinity and future armor the cinema is

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called the LF null and a left null is

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the smallest type of infinity so the

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implication and it's a very important

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mathematical implication is it there are

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different scales of infinity so we talk

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about everything from calculus and

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infinite decimals all the way up to

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infinity and everything in between and

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then I think the lovely thing is it

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although some of the ideas are quite

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complicated you've got Marge and Homer

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kind of holding your hand and taking you

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through the but hopefully hopefully kind

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of making it more accessible found out

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where I can certainly recommend that

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book and if you have a chance to see dr.

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Simon Singh present don't miss that

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chance now let's talk briefly about the

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latest developments in the UK when it

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comes to the libel situation and also

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the chiropractic all mixed up yes so

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okay so I was sued for libel Bonnie hire

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practice in Britain and eventually won

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my case but two things came out of that

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two good things came out of it one is

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that there was more awareness of the

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rotten claims made by some chiropractors

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in terms of lack of evidence to support

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these claims and so I think people in

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general are more aware that

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chiropractors can't treat asthma really

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young and also there were there were

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skeptics two or three in particular who

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began to submit complaints to the

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regulatory body of chiropractors so I

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think the regulator's of chiropractic

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have come down on some of these claims

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and so so in Britain I think

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chiropractic is better understood in

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terms of limitations and is better

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policed by its regulators and the other

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good thing that came out of it was that

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lots of people said that they were being

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sued for libel and that and people began

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to realize how one-sided our libel laws

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in England were in fact the last not

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then maybe not the last time I was here

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but the time before that I gave an

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interview to the Melbourne

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yeah and my interview could not be

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published because the journalist was

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scared that he might end up getting sued

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back in London yes that's bizarre yeah

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it's a thing called libel Torres I have

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heard of that yeah the libel laws in

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England being so one-sided that people

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from all over the world was suing in

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London yeah so a campaign started to

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reform English libel law it took years

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and years which is actually three years

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but but that's pretty quick in terms of

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transforming a whole area of law from

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scratch but the 2013 defamation act

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which was passed last year came into

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force earlier this month and so we now

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have a new defamation law you know we

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need a defamation law you know we don't

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want to get rid of libel you know we've

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all got reputations and we wouldn't want

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them unfairly besmirched yeah but at the

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same time we want to encourage free

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speech and it's about getting that

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balance right and the new libel law is a

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big step towards having a fairer balance

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so there are many many changes so for

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example it's now harder to bring libel

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tourism cases to London from a

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scientific point of view if you publish

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research in an academic journal and it's

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been peer-reviewed it's going to be

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really hard to get sued for libel so in

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a way that's the place where open

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discussion needs to be as sacred as

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possible and the new libel will reflect

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that and there are many other changes in

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the libel or which are generally very

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positive and more to come do you think

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oh well there are two things that I

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think we'll have to keep an eye on one

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is that how are the judge is going to

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interpret this law and I think there are

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signs already that judges are

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interpreting the old law in a more

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generous fashion so I think they'll

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understand what the new law is supposed

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to do and will interpret it in the

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appropriate manner the problem that

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still has to be fixed is that

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Northern Ireland hasn't adopted this new

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libel law really and in a way that's

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that's fine because they have their own

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political process and they need to make

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sure that they're happy with it my

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problem and many other people share this

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concern is that they don't seem to show

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great enthusiasm for changing or keen to

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do it with any any speed at all and and

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if Northern Ireland doesn't change its

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libel law then Belfast will become the

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new liable capital and academic journals

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will end up being sued in Belfast so you

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know I I hope it doesn't take an

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outrageous and embarrassing case to

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encourage Belfast to change and I hope

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that they change sooner rather than

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later well it's been certainly taken up

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a lot of your time over last yeah and

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just you know I said it the other night

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when i was here in sydney and it's

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absolutely true that the support we

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received in the UK from skeptics around

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the world and skeptics here in australia

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and cosmos magazine i remember ran a a

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great article supporting the campaign

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that was really much appreciated for a

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personal point of view when when my back

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was against the ropes and it looked like

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i was going to lose my case knowing that

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there were people around the world

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tweeting blogging podcast inka was a

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great morale booster for me i think i

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even gave you a quick call the day after

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the Queen announced in Parliament that

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these laws were on

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you remember that I look even they were

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not mean open Parliament yes yes yes

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you're absolutely right you're

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absolutely right there with the key

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moments in this in the case that yeah

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we'll stay in my mind and there was that

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occasion I remember when I got sooo

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James Randi and Phil Plait emailed me

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and said look no we've got your back and

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I chrome over it there's something that

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an email from the Norwegian skeptic so

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they let me know we're following you and

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we're behind you and and you know when I

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want my case I think the Toronto

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skeptics had a big party big cake I

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really means a lot that you're part of

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this community of people and okay we

543
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disagree amongst ourselves sometimes but

544
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we all care about the fact that

545
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rationality is important and there is a

546
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skeptical method and it's standing up

547
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for skepticism and free speech is

548
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important it is and just just it's just

549
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reminded me there's a copy of the

550
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skeptic magazine of giving you which is

551
00:22:49,310 --> 00:22:47,220
covered with ants at the moment that's

552
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fair because we're out here on the

553
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street and you probably being the sort

554
00:22:59,540 --> 00:22:54,120
of chavier you probably know this but

555
00:23:01,850 --> 00:22:59,550
the the Australian skeptics at our

556
00:23:03,860 --> 00:23:01,860
convention last year awarded our annual

557
00:23:07,070 --> 00:23:03,870
bent spoon prize to the chiropractors

558
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and there's probably there's someone you

559
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might not yeah I'm just looking for the

560
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:11,460
magazine that moment oh wait it may be

561
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:13,410
may well be in there but yeah we awarded

562
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the chiropractor's of Australia for not

563
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enforcing their own regulations and all

564
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:20,970
this other stuff yeah the chiropractic

565
00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:22,530
community around the world seems to be

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in a spin because there are some

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chiropractors who know their limits in

568
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fact chiropractors would come to me and

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say look we support you you know we

570
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might disagree with what you have to say

571
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and actually some extent we agree with

572
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what you say in some cases and we can

573
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see that there's something rotten within

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our community but but but there some of

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them are scared to stand up and speak

576
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out and these regulatory bodies are in a

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bind because they know what they should

578
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do yeah but they know that a lot of

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their members aren't going to listen to

580
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a lot of their members are true

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believers yeah absolutely and I think in

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many cases is it is about it and

583
00:24:02,390 --> 00:24:00,120
honestly held belief yes now these

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people have studied chiropractic they

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devoted themselves to carp rages the

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feedback

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their patients which convinces there I

588
00:24:12,140 --> 00:24:10,260
am you may have caught my talk somewhere

589
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:12,150
on the walk I talked about this feedback

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effect yeah where specifically of

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psychics but also with alternative

592
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medicine healers where their clients

593
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believe they have benefit the clients

594
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give this feedback back to the

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practitioner the practitioner is getting

596
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this consonant good feedback of course

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they believe it yeah the classic example

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opposes taluk that their parents at

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their wit's end with babies that are

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just crying relentlessly they put up

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with it for a few weeks have gone to

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their GP they put up with it a few more

603
00:24:45,890 --> 00:24:42,750
weeks they eventually going to see a

604
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chiropractor and within a few weeks it's

605
00:24:48,620 --> 00:24:47,520
come to an end because eventually call

606
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it does come to that but the

607
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chiropractor gets the credit the

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00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:52,710
chiropractor rightly feel doesn't

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00:24:56,330 --> 00:24:55,110
rightly feel but they understandably

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feel that they've done something good

611
00:25:01,760 --> 00:24:59,160
the parents become a walking advert but

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when you do the clinical trial you know

613
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you take 100 babies you get into a

614
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chiropractor taking another hundred

615
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babies just give them to a nurse and the

616
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nurse just holds the baby return the

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babies to their parents the parents have

618
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no idea whether their child is seeing a

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00:25:17,870 --> 00:25:15,419
chiropractor or a nurse the results are

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exactly the same babies eventually get

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better from colleagues what he learned

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from that that's right well Simon it

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thank you so much for giving me some of

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00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:25,110
your time I know you're sore still

625
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:27,210
getting over the trip and jet lag and

626
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all the fun of being in Sydney and

627
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there's a fire truck just up the street

628
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I don't know what it's doing luckily the

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sirens aren't on it's a nice day I think

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I hope you enjoy the rest of your daddy

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Ric always love coming to Australia and

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so so really looking forward to having a

633
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bit of a holiday in a bit of work and

634
00:25:46,190 --> 00:25:44,160
bit of family it's gonna be a really

635
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lovely tripping but reporter Simon Singh

636
00:26:07,970 --> 00:26:05,270
now on Belfast FM we turn to the person

637
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:07,980
lads easygoing and confident skeptic

638
00:26:12,530 --> 00:26:10,080
seeks other critical thinkers for fun

639
00:26:14,510 --> 00:26:12,540
laughter and good times must be willing

640
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:14,520
to apply logic liberally and a good

641
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listener expect something new and

642
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interesting every month come and meet me

643
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in Belfast in Northern Ireland if this

644
00:26:25,910 --> 00:26:22,350
sounds like you check out my profile on

645
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bail for skeptics calm music by Kevin

646
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:34,380
MacLeod welcome to a week in science

647
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from RI oz bringing you the science news

648
00:26:42,410 --> 00:26:39,390
you need to know this week we're looking

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00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:42,420
forward to 2014 and making our

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00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:44,310
predictions that what will be big in

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00:26:50,010 --> 00:26:46,320
science

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00:26:53,010 --> 00:26:50,020
we're expecting that 2014 will be a big

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00:26:55,289 --> 00:26:53,020
year in space exploration last year

654
00:26:57,570 --> 00:26:55,299
china and india launch probes to the

655
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moon and mars while NASA Rovers

656
00:27:01,919 --> 00:26:59,289
continued their work on the red planet

657
00:27:05,460 --> 00:27:01,929
with these programs generating results

658
00:27:07,710 --> 00:27:05,470
in 2014 and a new wave of private

659
00:27:09,630 --> 00:27:07,720
enterprise we may soon have a very

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00:27:15,390 --> 00:27:09,640
different view of our place in the

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00:27:18,330 --> 00:27:15,400
universe 2013 saw several steps towards

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00:27:21,149 --> 00:27:18,340
the creation of a universal flu vaccine

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00:27:22,919 --> 00:27:21,159
with research continuing into influenza

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00:27:24,779 --> 00:27:22,929
don't be surprised to see some big

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00:27:27,149 --> 00:27:24,789
announcements regarding our battle

666
00:27:29,399 --> 00:27:27,159
against this virus this could include

667
00:27:31,769 --> 00:27:29,409
the creation of a universal vaccine a

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00:27:37,740 --> 00:27:31,779
single shock which protects against all

669
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:37,750
types of flu in april 2013 barack obama

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00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:40,000
announced the launch of a project to map

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00:27:44,460 --> 00:27:42,490
the human brain while it may be too

672
00:27:47,610 --> 00:27:44,470
early to see any results of this project

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00:27:50,010 --> 00:27:47,620
in 2014 keep an eye out for this in the

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00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:50,020
future as scientists investigate how the

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00:27:54,690 --> 00:27:52,630
billions of brain cells interact this

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00:27:58,860 --> 00:27:54,700
project may one day shed light into

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Alzheimer's and epilepsy we also

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00:28:03,870 --> 00:28:01,510
predicted in 2014 there will be a

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00:28:06,060 --> 00:28:03,880
breakthrough in quantum computing the

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00:28:10,649 --> 00:28:06,070
problem is we probably won't be able to

681
00:28:13,260 --> 00:28:10,659
explain it and finally you've heard of

682
00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:13,270
3d printing well get ready for the next

683
00:28:18,899 --> 00:28:16,720
big thing 4d printing 4d printing

684
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:18,909
involves printing shapes or structures

685
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:21,130
like 3d printing however these

686
00:28:26,250 --> 00:28:23,049
structures can then be activated to

687
00:28:29,310 --> 00:28:26,260
self-assemble into other shapes this

688
00:28:32,430 --> 00:28:29,320
really is super cool that's our

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00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:32,440
predictions for 2014 so keep watching a

690
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:34,000
week in science through the year to find

691
00:28:37,919 --> 00:28:36,370
out which ones we got right you can also

692
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:37,929
follow us on Twitter using the hashtag

693
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:41,110
week in sy and like us on Facebook I'm

694
00:29:05,210 --> 00:28:43,090
poor Willis and I'll see you back here

695
00:29:10,380 --> 00:29:08,760
hi I'm audit oh yeah crystal or evil

696
00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:10,390
tips advice on logic lifted off the

697
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:12,070
skeptics ohm ohm skipped a comedian or

698
00:29:15,540 --> 00:29:14,080
again if it's not a blog get upper bleph

699
00:29:16,890 --> 00:29:15,550
or podcast often and against capsis

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00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:16,900
driven me like if I'm a flock to this

701
00:29:21,660 --> 00:29:19,510
match centre of escape system and low or

702
00:29:23,490 --> 00:29:21,670
high / versus the deep plane or jected

703
00:29:25,170 --> 00:29:23,500
and calendar / escape disc after death

704
00:29:27,030 --> 00:29:25,180
online cuted on will escape this killer

705
00:29:28,830 --> 00:29:27,040
sausage escapes his blog in okla 30

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00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:28,840
Emily Oh discrete areas hefty passes for

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00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:31,450
domestic inna de estado yourself skips a

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00:29:36,780 --> 00:29:34,960
stop mo hello I'm moderate and I'm

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00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:36,790
Kristin and we want to let you know that

710
00:29:40,650 --> 00:29:38,710
there are lots of Norwegian skeptics for

711
00:29:42,060 --> 00:29:40,660
you to get to know there are blogs and

712
00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:42,070
pub meets and a podcast and the

713
00:29:45,870 --> 00:29:43,750
Norwegian skeptics also do paranormal

714
00:29:48,210 --> 00:29:45,880
tests and consumer activism to find out

715
00:29:57,309 --> 00:29:48,220
more Google Norwegian skeptics or visit

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00:30:05,310 --> 00:30:01,909
here's my not spooky action at a

717
00:30:10,210 --> 00:30:08,350
well welcome to Maynard spooky action at

718
00:30:11,620 --> 00:30:10,220
a distance and we haven't gone with

719
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:11,630
elegant as far as the crown hotel

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00:30:16,030 --> 00:30:13,610
tonight where the first meeting of

721
00:30:17,950 --> 00:30:16,040
skeptics in the pub for 2014 is roaring

722
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:17,960
away we have Jessica hi Jessica how are

723
00:30:22,750 --> 00:30:20,450
you hey I'm very well how are you I'm

724
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:22,760
just fine and fit and fantastic because

725
00:30:26,050 --> 00:30:24,410
I haven't been back to work yet me

726
00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:26,060
neither I know it's a wonderful feeling

727
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:28,910
isn't it is a great feeling and because

728
00:30:33,220 --> 00:30:30,530
we're offering so good with feeling in

729
00:30:35,710 --> 00:30:33,230
connection with the psychic ed that

730
00:30:38,020 --> 00:30:35,720
we're all a part of we can just dip into

731
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:38,030
and have a prediction for 2014 now

732
00:30:41,650 --> 00:30:39,290
remember these will be played back like

733
00:30:43,270 --> 00:30:41,660
last year you predicted larva lot of

734
00:30:44,530 --> 00:30:43,280
lava now I'm sure there was lava around

735
00:30:45,820 --> 00:30:44,540
the world but I don't know what you were

736
00:30:50,260 --> 00:30:45,830
thinking of what were you thinking of

737
00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:50,270
last year ah good question i'm tuning in

738
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:52,310
now tuning into the vibe churning

739
00:30:57,220 --> 00:30:54,110
churning Jenny yeah I can't remember

740
00:30:59,380 --> 00:30:57,230
it's too long ago and do it too much

741
00:31:00,820 --> 00:30:59,390
alcohol let's wipe that one let's go

742
00:31:05,470 --> 00:31:00,830
with 2014 what are your predictions

743
00:31:08,740 --> 00:31:05,480
Jessica 14 2014 okay the alcohol will

744
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:08,750
flow skeptics in the pub a good time

745
00:31:13,150 --> 00:31:10,610
will be had by all there will be lots

746
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:13,160
and lots of interesting speakers and fun

747
00:31:19,780 --> 00:31:16,010
and good discussions and excellent talks

748
00:31:21,130 --> 00:31:19,790
and generally good times had by all did

749
00:31:23,650 --> 00:31:21,140
you feel that any one of the ABC is

750
00:31:26,140 --> 00:31:23,660
getting sacked to this year oh that's

751
00:31:29,620 --> 00:31:26,150
what you asked me last year I will I

752
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:29,630
will say no okay no no one no one at the

753
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:32,450
ABC will be sacked but they will have a

754
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:37,130
good time dragging they're dragging

755
00:31:43,060 --> 00:31:40,610
their employer through the mud by their

756
00:31:44,380 --> 00:31:43,070
heels backwards Wow goodness me like

757
00:31:46,780 --> 00:31:44,390
that could be there come on be the head

758
00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:46,790
of the 730 report that does that it

759
00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:49,310
could be anybody in the ABC well I love

760
00:31:53,230 --> 00:31:51,200
how you specific to such a large amount

761
00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:53,240
of people it's a male yeah it's it's a

762
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:55,910
neck isn't it psychic predictions and

763
00:32:00,160 --> 00:31:58,370
and that's the secret just keep it

764
00:32:02,350 --> 00:32:00,170
general now what starsign you reckons

765
00:32:05,620 --> 00:32:02,360
gonna have a big year this year ah look

766
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:05,630
me Scorpio has to be a Scorpio year

767
00:32:09,490 --> 00:32:07,610
definitely known as wild roses to

768
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:09,500
Scorpio they're also the most murdered

769
00:32:15,070 --> 00:32:12,890
star sign oh well i will learn

770
00:32:18,610 --> 00:32:15,080
I won't say anything on the grounds that

771
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:18,620
I mayen criminate myself ok now we'll

772
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:20,510
look at what are you looking into your

773
00:32:25,630 --> 00:32:22,370
crystal ball of blast there and what do

774
00:32:28,030 --> 00:32:25,640
you say well I'm absolutely positive

775
00:32:31,170 --> 00:32:28,040
that there'll be a very big natural

776
00:32:35,170 --> 00:32:31,180
disaster in an underdeveloped country

777
00:32:36,730 --> 00:32:35,180
during 2014 I'm positive I can see it I

778
00:32:38,050 --> 00:32:36,740
can feel it it's definitely going to

779
00:32:39,580 --> 00:32:38,060
happen you're going to be a bit more

780
00:32:41,140 --> 00:32:39,590
specific I want to go with the Pacific

781
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:41,150
Ring of Fire just to make it a bit more

782
00:32:44,590 --> 00:32:42,650
interesting well you know the Ring of

783
00:32:46,180 --> 00:32:44,600
Fire is always good candidate because

784
00:32:48,190 --> 00:32:46,190
then you've got your earthquakes you've

785
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:48,200
got your tsunamis coming from that and

786
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:50,000
it's also very volatile in terms of

787
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:53,330
cyclones and typhoons and those kinds of

788
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:55,490
things so definitely something that will

789
00:33:00,490 --> 00:32:58,130
be exacerbated by climate change you

790
00:33:03,850 --> 00:33:00,500
want to call a scientific prediction at

791
00:33:06,580 --> 00:33:03,860
all for 2014 in to in 2014 we're on the

792
00:33:08,350 --> 00:33:06,590
crux of some very significant scientific

793
00:33:10,180 --> 00:33:08,360
breakthroughs I don't want to give it

794
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:10,190
away I want everyone to be surprised but

795
00:33:15,910 --> 00:33:11,840
something big is going to be happening

796
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:15,920
life-changing life-saving in 2014 do you

797
00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:17,770
think they'll finally cure embarrassment

798
00:33:23,410 --> 00:33:21,440
definitely not and here we are we're at

799
00:33:26,110 --> 00:33:23,420
the end of a very busy talking table

800
00:33:27,910 --> 00:33:26,120
here what's your name sir chris ok Chris

801
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:27,920
what do you got for predictions of 2014

802
00:33:34,330 --> 00:33:31,450
for us man well my main prediction is

803
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:34,340
halfway through the year Alan Jones will

804
00:33:44,110 --> 00:33:40,240
announce I'm 2gb that he's now a climate

805
00:33:45,250 --> 00:33:44,120
change believer no why would you predict

806
00:33:47,170 --> 00:33:45,260
that you just got a feeling in your

807
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:47,180
bones is there something about illogical

808
00:33:51,460 --> 00:33:48,770
probability well I didn't have why this

809
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:51,470
one cognitive dissonance because I think

810
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:53,710
the government

811
00:34:00,210 --> 00:33:57,200
moving ahead with global warming carbon

812
00:34:05,170 --> 00:34:00,220
tax and laws and so on to restrict

813
00:34:07,330 --> 00:34:05,180
carbon mr. Jones can't stay at climate

814
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:07,340
denier so what do you think would be the

815
00:34:10,780 --> 00:34:09,169
tipping point what do you do the point

816
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:10,790
we'd have to go I've got to go with it

817
00:34:14,889 --> 00:34:12,169
now what I think the thing will happen

818
00:34:18,129 --> 00:34:14,899
that will have to be that thing oh he'll

819
00:34:22,750 --> 00:34:18,139
he'll read up on on some science and

820
00:34:24,430 --> 00:34:22,760
look at the facts and accept that okay

821
00:34:27,010 --> 00:34:24,440
well we'll have we'll see if that

822
00:34:30,070 --> 00:34:27,020
happens in 2014 a bold decision that

823
00:34:31,869 --> 00:34:30,080
bowl thank you i'll come down the arm

824
00:34:34,690 --> 00:34:31,879
down at the disreputable end of the

825
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:34,700
meeting now and we're going now you've

826
00:34:40,570 --> 00:34:38,090
got some half important predictions for

827
00:34:44,139 --> 00:34:40,580
us here the worst one of all sydney

828
00:34:46,030 --> 00:34:44,149
property prices crash I think the bubble

829
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:46,040
will finally burst and the my rent in

830
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:47,510
glebe will be a bit reasonable for a

831
00:34:52,210 --> 00:34:49,310
change I read also kick off our bucket

832
00:34:53,710 --> 00:34:52,220
out no no I know a bit you can walk into

833
00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:53,720
a place for about half of what it would

834
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:55,730
be now do you think that'll be across

835
00:34:59,260 --> 00:34:57,680
the whole area or will still get the

836
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:59,270
areas like you're not sure and that

837
00:35:04,270 --> 00:35:01,520
they'll still maintain a bubble stuff on

838
00:35:05,470 --> 00:35:04,280
stuff up yeah he cares about them so you

839
00:35:07,690 --> 00:35:05,480
want to pick a month the bubble will

840
00:35:11,050 --> 00:35:07,700
burst on Sydney property that's a bold

841
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:11,060
one year come on up look to America when

842
00:35:15,730 --> 00:35:12,560
that crash is when they can't print any

843
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:15,740
more money okay well okay well that's

844
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:17,690
that's bold anyone else want a good

845
00:35:21,610 --> 00:35:20,090
prediction here at all I don't know I'm

846
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:21,620
not so certain that there would be a

847
00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:24,050
crash i mean i think that there's a lot

848
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:25,300
of

849
00:35:32,970 --> 00:35:29,650
buyers maybe maybe eastern suburbs issue

850
00:35:35,010 --> 00:35:32,980
and say some of the new Asian areas

851
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:35,020
they're not but they're not people it's

852
00:35:38,820 --> 00:35:37,330
not a bubble because they're not buying

853
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:38,830
them in the hopes of selling them off

854
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:41,440
later so if you're buying the house not

855
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:42,490
something off you're going to raise a

856
00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:44,320
family there that's not a bubble because

857
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:46,270
you're not planning to sell it and then

858
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:47,650
finding out that you can't get as much

859
00:35:53,610 --> 00:35:49,810
as what you bought for a true although

860
00:35:56,270 --> 00:35:53,620
you are paying too much yes yeah but

861
00:35:59,400 --> 00:35:56,280
that's not really what a bubbles about

862
00:36:00,720 --> 00:35:59,410
okay all right so you probably so the

863
00:36:02,190 --> 00:36:00,730
people will still be ripped off to the

864
00:36:04,260 --> 00:36:02,200
being ripped off now just the investors

865
00:36:06,930 --> 00:36:04,270
will leave and won't be able to sell

866
00:36:08,220 --> 00:36:06,940
again for a while pretty much yeah okay

867
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:08,230
that's good why didn't you say something

868
00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:11,650
as eloquent as him 3 b's and more yeah

869
00:36:15,570 --> 00:36:14,350
fair enough that's okay I'm not look as

870
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:15,580
I must dress it out there are fairly

871
00:36:18,930 --> 00:36:17,290
rough predictions here so you want to

872
00:36:21,690 --> 00:36:18,940
take a go at any predictions for 2014

873
00:36:23,460 --> 00:36:21,700
okay i think by the end of 2014

874
00:36:28,590 --> 00:36:23,470
everybody will have forgotten about

875
00:36:30,690 --> 00:36:28,600
Edward Snowden yes he's gonna drip feed

876
00:36:32,340 --> 00:36:30,700
the stuff out bit by bit army and of

877
00:36:34,860 --> 00:36:32,350
course will and he will have stuff going

878
00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:34,870
on by December still but people will

879
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:37,030
have forgotten about him anyway and

880
00:36:40,740 --> 00:36:39,040
that's the way though shut up Snowdon

881
00:36:43,530 --> 00:36:40,750
they'll ever press conference of people

882
00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:43,540
go shut up yes basically okay then do

883
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:44,800
you what do you reckon he might be a

884
00:36:48,570 --> 00:36:46,720
plant by another security organization

885
00:36:50,070 --> 00:36:48,580
like he might be with like the CIA or

886
00:36:51,450 --> 00:36:50,080
something and he's there to discredit

887
00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:51,460
the NSA dude what do you think of that

888
00:36:56,910 --> 00:36:54,880
theory it's it's too complicated i think

889
00:37:01,170 --> 00:36:56,920
it's just what he appears on the surface

890
00:37:02,940 --> 00:37:01,180
you know Occam's razor I know okay now

891
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:02,950
what's your predictions for 2014 serve

892
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:05,440
24 going on om have to what's your name

893
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:07,570
to so when we played back week we can we

894
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:10,690
can still name & shamian Richard okay

895
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:13,330
okay it's the it's the great Richard

896
00:37:18,250 --> 00:37:14,560
what do you got coming at us which it

897
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:18,260
wouldn't be I don't think I'm so great

898
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:21,930
I predict the media is going to mistake

899
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:25,890
the Navy's new new arm lhd for an

900
00:37:29,690 --> 00:37:28,050
aircraft carrier are they going to call

901
00:37:31,970 --> 00:37:29,700
it that why because it's because it's

902
00:37:35,090 --> 00:37:31,980
closest thing we've got to it I believe

903
00:37:37,610 --> 00:37:35,100
so yes it looks like one but it's it's a

904
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:37,620
little bit more about so they'll come up

905
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:39,690
with some cute word like our mini

906
00:37:46,910 --> 00:37:41,520
aircraft carrier or else I don't know

907
00:37:48,590 --> 00:37:46,920
that probably probably okay media get

908
00:37:50,090 --> 00:37:48,600
something wrong with the Navy yet again

909
00:37:52,130 --> 00:37:50,100
that's a good prediction what's your

910
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:52,140
name so much your prediction welcome no

911
00:37:57,530 --> 00:37:55,920
hello Malcolm that's not like a deal the

912
00:37:59,900 --> 00:37:57,540
amazing Malcolm be looked into crystal

913
00:38:02,560 --> 00:37:59,910
ball what do you see you might find the

914
00:38:05,390 --> 00:38:02,570
climate changes of a fallacy improved

915
00:38:07,810 --> 00:38:05,400
role and that's not teaching it in

916
00:38:10,970 --> 00:38:07,820
schools and give them other options of

917
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:10,980
considerations and how men kind

918
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:13,370
affecting the earth and so forth that

919
00:38:18,830 --> 00:38:16,320
next add laterally prediction not too

920
00:38:20,780 --> 00:38:18,840
sure okay but the world should she'll be

921
00:38:23,870 --> 00:38:20,790
here by the end of next year anyhow I

922
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:23,880
like that one that's a good one I'm

923
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:25,110
gonna step in boldly I'm going to

924
00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:26,730
predict the return and polo neck

925
00:38:30,860 --> 00:38:28,800
skivvies in black the Steve Jobs look is

926
00:38:32,660 --> 00:38:30,870
going to be big this year and I think

927
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:32,670
girls will start wearing Hawaiian shirts

928
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:35,010
more that's my prediction and what is

929
00:38:37,790 --> 00:38:36,450
your name so we can name in shame you

930
00:38:40,460 --> 00:38:37,800
when we play this back okay it's

931
00:38:43,460 --> 00:38:40,470
Margaret and Tate and I predict gay

932
00:38:45,860 --> 00:38:43,470
marriage legalized and you want but a

933
00:38:47,690 --> 00:38:45,870
state or a month or what do I put it'll

934
00:38:49,340 --> 00:38:47,700
work but put a qualifier I come on make

935
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:49,350
it fun for us no don't get the whole

936
00:38:55,330 --> 00:38:51,690
year that's no no no no you sometime

937
00:38:59,480 --> 00:38:55,340
this year but you know oh ok let's say

938
00:39:01,530 --> 00:38:59,490
November yeah okay why not okay that's

939
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:01,540
not bad anything else

940
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:06,640
a hot decriminalized oh that's a big

941
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:08,650
cool well for one you know be good and

942
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:11,110
wicked you're going you're going

943
00:39:18,030 --> 00:39:15,760
federally here or as stating oh well

944
00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:18,040
it'll have to be a state thing I think

945
00:39:23,490 --> 00:39:21,790
yeah yep and what you're gonna call

946
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:23,500
Tasmania gym I think it's terrace Manny

947
00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:26,650
because they need the business ok can I

948
00:39:30,090 --> 00:39:28,720
think is there a sense if this year's

949
00:39:32,010 --> 00:39:30,100
it's not is it there's not another

950
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:32,020
census for sure we're not gonna find out

951
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:35,310
but I would say like atheism will

952
00:39:42,270 --> 00:39:38,650
increase from the twenty percent it is

953
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:42,280
now to thirty percent 80 that'd be great

954
00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:44,410
like Sweden I'd love that that's a bulb

955
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:46,480
on Tim ok Tim now you pulled a few fast

956
00:39:50,910 --> 00:39:47,920
ones with your predictions last year

957
00:39:52,530 --> 00:39:50,920
when usual via pallava you gonna see the

958
00:39:54,420 --> 00:39:52,540
amazing team is written on the side of

959
00:39:55,590 --> 00:39:54,430
your tent at the new town festival in

960
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:55,600
India there what are you going to

961
00:40:00,630 --> 00:39:58,570
predict for 2014 well I mean I'd like to

962
00:40:02,850 --> 00:40:00,640
keep him general okay not too specific

963
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:02,860
right because they always come true but

964
00:40:05,820 --> 00:40:04,330
I will predict that someone will make a

965
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:05,830
prediction this year about the end of

966
00:40:10,380 --> 00:40:07,690
the world that's my prediction that

967
00:40:11,730 --> 00:40:10,390
there will be a prediction right I have

968
00:40:13,980 --> 00:40:11,740
to say I stole that one but I have to be

969
00:40:15,870 --> 00:40:13,990
honest right but I like it anyway right

970
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:15,880
I will predict that someone will predict

971
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:18,490
that marijuana will be legalized and

972
00:40:21,630 --> 00:40:20,530
that some poor sod is going to believe

973
00:40:24,330 --> 00:40:21,640
that gay marriage is going to be

974
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:24,340
legalized to deliver live we can all

975
00:40:29,310 --> 00:40:26,770
hope in vain car we all hope of that my

976
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:29,320
prediction that that really will happen

977
00:40:36,140 --> 00:40:33,370
is that you're going to grab the limb

978
00:40:38,370 --> 00:40:36,150
that the avian under whatever the

979
00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:38,380
anti-vaccination network under whatever

980
00:40:44,250 --> 00:40:41,950
name it becomes will be defunct by the

981
00:40:45,930 --> 00:40:44,260
end of the year and when you define the

982
00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:45,940
funk like they'll be disbanded or the

983
00:40:51,150 --> 00:40:47,470
membership will get their money back or

984
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:51,160
how does that work was defunct does that

985
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:52,450
mean they're going to go into musicals

986
00:40:54,750 --> 00:40:53,680
okay now I'm gonna be cynical the

987
00:40:57,870 --> 00:40:54,760
membership will not get their money back

988
00:40:59,880 --> 00:40:57,880
but i think the organization will will

989
00:41:01,830 --> 00:40:59,890
dissolve it might become something else

990
00:41:05,310 --> 00:41:01,840
right i mean they have a tendency to

991
00:41:08,250 --> 00:41:05,320
resurface but i think that that

992
00:41:10,860 --> 00:41:08,260
organization will suddenly find there's

993
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:10,870
lack of carpet under its feet okay now

994
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:13,410
what now what starsign will have a big

995
00:41:19,550 --> 00:41:17,040
you this year Ophiuchus that that 14th

996
00:41:20,750 --> 00:41:19,560
one is that's a 1320 their 40th well I

997
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:20,760
don't know another way London I mean

998
00:41:24,650 --> 00:41:22,560
there are any way ya know whether

999
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:24,660
there's one of them there I would say my

1000
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:26,850
prediction is that every star sign the

1001
00:41:31,850 --> 00:41:28,710
characteristic of the believer is that

1002
00:41:34,570 --> 00:41:31,860
you are gullible except for Aquarius in

1003
00:41:37,580 --> 00:41:34,580
which you are gorgeous and gullible fair

1004
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:37,590
and look I can't figure out what your

1005
00:41:42,020 --> 00:41:40,110
star sign is in and i know i'm not going

1006
00:41:43,580 --> 00:41:42,030
to say actually with us deeper all right

1007
00:41:45,650 --> 00:41:43,590
now we've had a guy he's been over in

1008
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:45,660
the corner working away on his ipad he

1009
00:41:48,110 --> 00:41:46,800
had a bit of a look at what might

1010
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:48,120
actually happen this year what is your

1011
00:41:54,260 --> 00:41:50,970
name sir what do you predict my name is

1012
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:54,270
Joshua God me and I have three stellar

1013
00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:56,730
predictions for the next 12 months so

1014
00:42:00,800 --> 00:41:58,800
following I storm hercules which is

1015
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:00,810
currently hitting north more than a

1016
00:42:06,170 --> 00:42:03,930
America at the moment I predict the DC

1017
00:42:08,420 --> 00:42:06,180
summer in North America will be one of

1018
00:42:10,820 --> 00:42:08,430
the hottest on record and the entire

1019
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:10,830
place will go up in flames oh and that

1020
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:12,510
is it what so the atmosphere will

1021
00:42:18,020 --> 00:42:15,930
actually combust that's at all or it

1022
00:42:20,750 --> 00:42:18,030
will reach critical mass in all of

1023
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:20,760
norman north america god well let's put

1024
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:22,800
a number on it how many and let's go

1025
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:24,450
degrees fahrenheit that's the way they

1026
00:42:27,830 --> 00:42:25,650
work over there how many degrees

1027
00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:27,840
fahrenheit higher than average will it

1028
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:32,000
be across the US this year 2014 sir oh

1029
00:42:36,410 --> 00:42:35,010
that's a that's a tough one so you see

1030
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:36,420
psychics don't normally get asked the

1031
00:42:39,590 --> 00:42:38,160
number like that do that that's right

1032
00:42:41,090 --> 00:42:39,600
because you know you're the other guy

1033
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:41,100
with the ipad with the good photos on it

1034
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:43,890
i thought i definitely i'd say 20

1035
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:48,240
degrees above average 20 20 above that's

1036
00:42:52,970 --> 00:42:50,730
a that's a tall call but a bold one is

1037
00:42:55,550 --> 00:42:52,980
indeed a bold one okay well we'll get

1038
00:42:57,290 --> 00:42:55,560
back to you next year I've got this is

1039
00:43:00,410 --> 00:42:57,300
probably my best prediction for next

1040
00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:00,420
year so Kim jong-un of North Korea will

1041
00:43:04,859 --> 00:43:03,150
be assassinated by Dennis Rodman whoa

1042
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:04,869
who will then do

1043
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:07,450
then become the most popular leader in

1044
00:43:13,739 --> 00:43:11,200
North Korean history that's that's

1045
00:43:16,140 --> 00:43:13,749
that's my that's the concrete prediction

1046
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:16,150
for the next 12 months what are the talk

1047
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:18,160
or do you feel that anybody with the

1048
00:43:23,099 --> 00:43:20,049
name beginning with M will lose their

1049
00:43:25,460 --> 00:43:23,109
job at the ABC this year at all I'm not

1050
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:25,470
sure I can comment on huh not should I

1051
00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:28,240
yeah it is a little bit of Justice there

1052
00:43:32,339 --> 00:43:29,680
that you can't factor it isn't there

1053
00:43:34,620 --> 00:43:32,349
there is indeed and anything else you

1054
00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:34,630
got there I do but this one's a bit of a

1055
00:43:38,819 --> 00:43:37,119
silly one I'll ask you visit what we

1056
00:43:41,819 --> 00:43:38,829
know what starsign will have a huge year

1057
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:41,829
this year in 2014 well it's definitely

1058
00:43:46,769 --> 00:43:44,170
Taurus because i'm planning on rocking

1059
00:43:48,359 --> 00:43:46,779
at this year okay thank you okay now

1060
00:43:50,279 --> 00:43:48,369
what's your.what because that was the

1061
00:43:51,569 --> 00:43:50,289
completely reasonable prediction what's

1062
00:43:53,940 --> 00:43:51,579
the ridiculous one you've got written

1063
00:43:56,190 --> 00:43:53,950
down there the ridiculous prediction is

1064
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:56,200
that scientists will discover a method

1065
00:44:02,880 --> 00:43:58,960
of developing gills in Homo sapiens and

1066
00:44:06,569 --> 00:44:02,890
water world will become a reality wow

1067
00:44:07,859 --> 00:44:06,579
that's amazing that's amazing well don't

1068
00:44:10,130 --> 00:44:07,869
even maybe breath breathing underwater

1069
00:44:12,420 --> 00:44:10,140
you don't need the breath anymore

1070
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:12,430
hanging them it now look this discussion

1071
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:14,650
has broken out here over what a lot of

1072
00:44:17,789 --> 00:44:16,089
people universally think is the most

1073
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crap superhero of all time and that is

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the man from Atlantis played by Patrick

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Duffy of course from Dallas and we're

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trying to speculate we can't remember he

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did swim in a very unusual way he had

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the pair of speedos to wear around the

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place but did he breathe through gills

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or not I don't think so i reckon he just

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had really big lungs definitely the

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worst superhero in history hmm it has

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been pointed out many times into it's

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worth mentioning okay how would he

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reckoned people the man from atlantis

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the most crap superhero ever okay yeah

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seeing everyone's it didn't even know he

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was things the unknown superhero well

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there you have it just a whole bunch of

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white wine talking or some skeptics who

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really have their finger up the future

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only the future can tell it's spooky

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coming up in the next few weeks even

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more from Mad Maynard and some great

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interviews from the Australian skeptics

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National Convention yes folks there

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never ending which is a good thing also

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I'm going to catch up to a dear friend

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of mine susan go back from the guerrilla

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skepticism program or outreach or

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initiative that should be very

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interesting but for this week this is

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Richard Saunderson Fred the cat say

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hello Fred mmm that's about as much as

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we're going to get out of him signing

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off from Sydney Australia you've been

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